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I know that Germany has had a various amount of politicians protected by some of their own units. I'll assume that the same applies to important politicians of almost all other nations.

I'm also pretty sure that they are still protected by a Ukrainian team which is attached to the person they are meeting with, although that may of course also depend on who they visit. 

So I guess the answer is that security is mostly done by a combination of both. Although it's likely that the visiting politician is only guarded by the unit of his own country, when he currently isn't meeting someone.

Commander_Trashbag

Off camera there will be some gentleman from a particular unit keeping a watchful eye. 

There will be layers of security.

No_Werewolf9538

For Poland I know for a fact that a detatchment of SOP (unit tasked with protecting state officials) and GROM traveled with the president to Ukraine and were always visible around him. Also after the visit the president thanked SOP and other units and phrased it in a way implying that there were other units there so I guess there could be even more but what we know for a 100% is that SOP and GROM went to Ukraine with Andrzej Duda.

&gt;I’m assuming in the Kyiv example everyone is carrying ammunition?

I'm pretty sure no matter where the president goes (even within their country) every presidential secutiry agent has firearms with ammunition. Hell, GROM agents were seen with SAWs in Ukraine.

EDIT: This is all public information so please don't call me out on OPSEC.

PartyMarek

I heard in a podcast that they inform Kreml on forehand that they’ll be there and tell them exactly where they’ll be. And that in turn is respected because for Russia to knowingly bomb the head of state or head head of government of say the US or the UK would be a catastrophic escalation that nobody wants. Not even Russia.

MrOaiki

Dapper_Yak_7892

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It’s going to be a mish-mash of all kinds of different layers, tripping over each other, duplicating the work of each other, and maybe even suspiciously eyeballing each other… 

The dedicated agents to a particular principal, are not just going to go, “You guys got this? Okay, we’re just gonna chill at the airport.”

ZeroSumSatoshi

goeroebv

Alright lads with the sandbags crying OPSEC. There are literally hundreds of photos on this platform of world leaders in warzones flanked by door kickers. 

Until someone starts sharing specifics and not internet conjecture and shit the FSB doesn't already know, calm your jets.

When Boris visited there was even a passerby who stopped him too say thanks for the support I found that extremely unlikely to be genuine as the security would have been so so high surely. Then again they walked past hundreds of people so maybe not. But you will also notice in the video in the background there was a fair few blacked out SUVS following every step.

No_Memory_1344

Depends on the country, I know we (the U.S.) used a combination of secret service, SF, regular forces, and “partner forces” to create layers of security when VP Biden came to Iraq in 2009. 

Im sure it’s similar with other countries.

ExistenialPanicAttac

Ok so provided overwatch for the sec def when he visited Afghanistan. They will walk around with around 50 people closely around them and when I mean close I mean there’s like a 5ft bubble around the person and then around 50 guards that are shoulder to shoulder overlapping in a circle like a phalanx but in a circle around the high value individual. They will find safe places and take photo ops like this of them talking with leaders and minimal security when in reality there is tons. There will also be snipers positioned in multiple areas that you will not see.

tacticalpacifier

If I remember correctly, when an Irish minister went over, they sent a group specially trained Irish police officers instead of military personnel as Ireland is a neutral country and couldn't have a military presence there

In Iraq, we had the JVB at the time.  Foreign leaders would visit and coordinate through JVB. They could have some personal security but JVB would escort them around with security as well.

GodHatesPOGsv2025

Not that we are going to share on here…OPSEC boys and girls.

PapaGeorgio19

quixote09

Ironically, security wear camo suits for being recognised.

Rantamplan

Tbh, the answer to this question shouldn't be answered unless you're in on it. 

Short answer, if you don't need to know, you shouldn't be told. 

Thats OPSEC, and that's just the first layer of how security details work.

Only detail that matters is the Chaplains. Dude has a pump shotgun or benelli semi. His goal is so specified he’s only got something for close range. The two I’ve seen anyways lol.

that_enward

accidentallywinning

They wave a magic wand on a screen and have  Patriot work its AI magic. in some cases, they do let Russia know in advance, so if anything happens, the world would know it was Russia who started WW3, and it was premeditated...

There was actually a recent event where Russia almost droned a mayor who was visiting...

LivingDracula

Okay civilian question-aside from WW3, what would have stopped Russian from dropping a cruise missile on Kiev when Boris visited? 

Would they have told Russia that he was there?

krowrofefas

mr_hog232323

putrid_sex_object

Me an ex us army 11b 501 infantry and Ukraine vet legion 3rd battalion spec ops 

Usually a standard defensive/offensive staggered column

Two sentry’s directly behind boris one to the left of vlad and one behind the SBU guy on his phone they can coordinate 360 view so every 3 minutes or so they switch directions and the guard between vlad and Boris dose a 360 spin

KYIV 

In my experience Kyiv is pretty harmless now it’s not like a shahead will target them but Better safe then sorry it’s a very patriotic area the citizens of Kyiv/Kiev will die before becoming Russian pawns THERE IS NO THREAT 

They do this for maybe 15 minutes and then after that Boris/shunak gtfo of dodge because Kyiv and Kharkov are bombed every day 
There is no tactical point of them being in this place so after about 15/20min they leave back to Poland 

This is a very different war figuring out what and what is not a hazard is difficult so you need to adapt they have there own system but being trained in NATO doctrine I recognize what they do

Mundane-Umpire-7949

They say a pictures worth a 1000 words, but it also hides 260° of them.

talancaine

Tactical_Bacon99

Why do you want to know OP, you planning something? 🤔

michinouta

buskerform

Usually one or 2 dedicated staff travel with the principal and they rest of the crew are local and take over most movement responsibilities, AKA the “K diamond”

bumblefuckglobal

Do they? I figured it was always faked? Remember the girl carrying chunks of "concrete" with one hand?

ThatGeekEvan

We had the Prince of Monaco fly into our dinky airport.  His security detail was a couple of days ahead of him casing the place.  Also RCMP had a detail when he landed.  It was cool though, only one guy helped with bags etc the rest stood at a distance and didn't once look away from the treeline.

We also had a terrorist exercise here.  The main dude said it was from this time to this time.  Just go about your business.  People will be watching you but you will never see them.  Okay, guess we aren't scaring birds away with bangers that day.

nicktam2010

Imagine people with uniforms who you can ID and then imagine regular non suspecting people everywhere with guns and people from a far watching. You’ll never get a solid answer because that’s sensitive info but just use your creative mind

Silent_Tea4599

Why does it look like there is only 1 shoe choice in Ukraine?

akiiler

So that you don’t even want to make a false move cause lead is fast and nasty.

CanadianDadbod

Pavlikru

Unfortunately it seems a Russian asset with with Zelenskyy so the detail may have dropped the ball.

shillmaster

So this is depending on the country. For the United States they would have the regular secret service special agents form a protective bubble around the President/Vice President and secure them. Very similar to what they do in the United States. Then they would have units like the Counter Assault Team (Secret Service Special Operations) be attached with Green Berets to being a quick reaction force. In a war zone country they take different steps than they do in allied countries. The counter sniper team would also be looking for different things then their usual day to day when in an area like this. After that other layers of security would consist of the Ukrainian military for things like anti-air and anti-drone defense. The U.S. military also likely would have a drone over their protectee and have their own military defense measures prepared over the border. 

Thats at least what I know from my buddy in the counter assault team when he explained things like this to me. 

If you’re the Secretary of State it’s a very similar operation except it’s Mobile Security Deployment (the state departments counter-terrorist team) instead of counter assault team. Then it’s regular diplomatic security service agents instead of Secret Service in his protection detail.

BuyEasy9000

I agree it is a combination of both security teams working together. I’ve see the president in the states has at minimum two SUV’s with a strike team ready at a minute to protect the president. This is just what we see I imagine in the wings is another unit or three on call. They also have an armored car of sorts with antennas, this is jamming any kinda signals that might set off explosives. , then there’s the guess which limousine he’s in as there are 3-4 different limousines. All this and let’s not forget about the secret service guys spread out all over.  They also place snipers all around the location. Local police as well are hands on with local traffic blocking, Weeks before anyone shows up there is a team on that location with hands on making decisions and  accessing where threats may or may not come from. Now a trip to another country I am sure will also involve the military.

twoshovels

Russia does it by a unit know by SVR ZASLON and Germany has „Bundeswehr Personenschützer“ witch translates to „Bundeswehr Personalprotectors“

Airsoft__Tobi

Russia can fire a missle and reach that destination in like 10 seconds. I'm curious how/why Russia hasn't ended this already? Gentlemen's war?

vasquca1

bluelantern33

ricketyladder

Hopefully not well for that fucking cunt.

BennySkateboard

MARRASKONE

atcTS

xizrtilhh

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Dingusmanus

I feel like this is one of those questions people concerned about security should answer.

gontikins

ZealousidealBear93

Not really correct but it does depend on both the NGO and the conflict zone in question.

OctopusGoesSquish

It depends on the location.

I’ve been to conflict zones where there was a curfew, but you could still move around relatively freely. There were days when you were stuck inside, of course, but even in war, life goes on. You might hear bombing in the background while people haggle in the market.

Other places are much tougher. I’m in one right now—fully surrounded by blast windows, unable to just step outside, and every movement is meticulously checked right up to the last five minutes.

But yes, don’t expect to move around like in the movies. Most of the time, you will hear, smell and see the effects of war, but you won’t be combat that quickly

SgtRevo

I am assuming you are pretty new in the humanitarian sector. Welcome!

My suggestion is to never underestimate security. Never lower your guard. And most of all, don’t listen to those saying that everything is fine and they don’t understand the security rules of big organizations. Security rules are like a travel insurance, for most of your life it is probably just annoying to pay it, but you don’t want to be without the moment you need it.

HumanitarianCafe

No. I've been to six conflict/"fragile" zones, working for an NGO AND doing field research, and I've never had the "privilege" of living/staying in a compound. I don't know what it's like for others, but in my experience, those compounds are reserved for diplomats and their families. In some cases, ironically enough, it's safer to not stay in the compound or really, any large Western-affiliated hotel chain.  
  
Having said that, traveling/seeing/experiencing the country is something that's done very cautiously and really only if you can blend in.

saltatrices

Depends on the conflict zone, really. Can be very much like it. Can be very different also.

EasterAegon

It depends. I have been in a hardship station where I was not allowed to walk alone on a street, I've been in another where I walked home from work. I've never done field work where I didn't "see/experience a country."

jcravens42

Well its clearly America’s fault for making them flee. They are clearly equal but its best we keep the separate for the sake of OUR culture. Stupid amerikkkans would never understand 👎👎

donguscongus

They need emergency help that's why they ignored Turkey, Bulgaria, Greece, Serbia, Croatia,  Romania, Slovenia, Austria, Ukraine, Poland, Slovakia, Czechia etc. They really needed to come to Sweden and Germany.

Crime is through the roof in Sweden thanks to uncontrolled immigration. I've never even spoken to a 2nd generation immigrant who is pro open borders from MENA.

Swedishtranssexual

I dont want to have in my country people from culture that openly discriminates 50% of its population aka women (not to mention lgbt, other ethinc groups, and other religions.) 

On top of that they are mentally backwards (huge spike in rape cases across europe, gang wars, shootings and others) and usually (form my experience with them while studying abroad but not only) simping for russia.
They shit at Eu, usa, and so called west blaming them for their own problems. 
Why the fuck the dont move to russia, iran, suria or north korea then? 


Thankfully EU is changing its naive immigrants policy so i hope less and less of them will come to europe.

ZyzolPL

Most Europeans are actually pretty based and want to help individuals displaced by war. We should be working to create bridges with our European brothers and sisters rather than creating walls by pretending we are superior. We are all working towards the same goal

Source: have lived in Germany for several years

Molotov-Micdrop_Pact

Europeans when blonde hair and blue eyes: Oh dear, gorgeous

European when don't: YOU FUCKING DONKEY

donttakemypp

They might need help, but their presence can bring many negatives to European countries. They likely don't speak the language, have a completely different culture, will drain government subsidies (taxpayer money), have a backwards religion, will lower social trust and cohesion in the area, among other things.

UlfarrVargr

Anti-charizard

That's why European (exept the super Atlantist and moralist one) are often against waging wars in the middle east

-Freyes

Pulling up on a raft machete in one hand  big stone in the other ready to fight for democracy

Personally, I would. If Barbados were to experience a coup (far more likely than a war) or were invaded (by who? who knows), I'd like it if the rest of the Eastern Caribbean actually tried to provide some assistance and didn't just release a statement of condemnation as if it would do something. So I'd definitely support it if we helped another RSS member state if they needed that assistance

However, would we be effective? That's a different question. It took US troops to fix the situation in Grenada while the other West Indian countries went along with the ride. I don't think any individual CARICOM country, let alone in the RSS, has the capabilities for, let's say, mass troop transport and quick deployment. Barbados itself doesn't even have an air force, and we have patrol boats for a navy. So in that light, we'd have to really examine what that assistance would effectively mean given our limited capabilities

LivingKick

Bring the WIF back. Then we could actually have a respected military force. We have been sitting ducks out here for years.

The Caribbean and CARICOM are too pussy to actually be fully unified they love small island politics and not fully committing to each other. The countries not in the RSS use the fact that the original RSS agreement is kind of an American Cold War invention. But the U.S dictates so much foreign policy in the region already and if that’s your fear then mend it to suit you.

Juice_Almighty

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